Liverpool Discussions

17 Jun 2026 06:34:21
There shouldn't even be a debate. Messi has been playing at the highest level for over 20 years, and his ability to do exactly what he wants on the pitch, to read the game, shoot, pass, and find space is simply out of this world.



Have there been more skillful players? Of course. We've had the original Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, and Maradona. But Messi is the Goat. He makes football look effortless.

Take a bow and just enjoy the privilege of living through his era.

16 Jun 2026 21:48:11
Who was it said Barcola was rubbish? You complete muppet. Just watch that goal - movement, pace and finish. If that’s rubbish, I truly hope you get Nunez instead!

16 Jun 2026 23:02:54
Me, I said it too. I ain't no muppet.

16 Jun 2026 21:44:23
Don’t usually get inside information but apparently we can rule out Konoplyanka as a replacement for Salah.

Make of it what you will.

16 Jun 2026 22:22:29
My sources say Simao is unlikely too.

16 Jun 2026 22:57:45
Ken Aguero still available.

16 Jun 2026 23:21:19
What about Arda Turan?

16 Jun 2026 23:32:55
John Barnes is coming back, just like his England rap!

16 Jun 2026 18:57:54
Damn... De Zerbi isn’t playing around.

Spurs are moving fast - fighting relegation must have hit home.

16 Jun 2026 19:41:24
Hardly any stand out signings.

Practical, yes, much different to what get had, not really.

16 Jun 2026 23:44:03
Just getting rid of Romero will do them a huge favour.

Signing Robbo, Senesi and Van Hecke is a bit meh.

If they get Tonali, that would be a statement, but I can't for the life of me understand why he'd want to go to Spurs.

16 Jun 2026 16:20:40.
So hopefully we can shift a few and to open up space in the squad for new blood and cash in on players not needed/used.

Mama
Elliot
Endo
Chiesa

From the first team could all be sellable. I would keep Jones (we need a scouser lol).

Some of the kids will no doubt be looked at also for moves from perhaps lower clubs.

16 Jun 2026 18:58:46
Elliot and Jones will be sold as only one year left. Chiesa has said he will only look to move if no opportunities, so may stay. Endo has one year left and is 33, so will stay imo.

16 Jun 2026 20:19:22
What would Elliott and Jones, between them, bring in if Jones heads off to Italy? £45m at most? We're going into a season of high octane football under this coach. Would we not be better off keeping them? Elliott could be backup to Wirtz if he does end up playing as the 10.

We could work during the season on extending them if things work out. Both are young and love the club, and for the pittance we'd receive, we could be better off with them around.

16 Jun 2026 21:57:38
I don't get involved with finances, Florian, not worth it.

16 Jun 2026 22:17:17
If the only reason to keep Jones is the geographical location of his birth, then there's no reason. He certainly doesn't deserve to stay because of football reasons.

16 Jun 2026 22:40:24
The biggest reason for me should be not losing a bloke who featured 49 times last year for £17m.

{Ed025's Note - most of those players who played last year for Liverpool would be overpriced at £17m mate..

16 Jun 2026 23:22:23
Liverpool want £25m for Jones and similar for Elliot. Both have one year left, Flo, so they have to be moved on if the club doesn't want to offer new deals.

16 Jun 2026 22:53:21
I know Ed, But £17m wouldn't even get ye a Gardner.

{Ed025's Note - you must have some sized lawn FM.. :)

17 Jun 2026 07:42:37
Craig Gardener?

16 Jun 2026 16:10:26
Whilst responding to another post I thought I would ask everyone who they think will make it this season into the 1st team squad.

Below are some of the names pretty close to the first team or perhaps waiting on a second chance with the right coach.

Pecsi
Jaros
Nyoni
Bajcetic
McConnell
Ngumoha
Lucky
Nallo
Ndiaye
Scanlon
Morrison
Stephenson
Danns
Figeroa
Gordon
Koumas
Sonni-Lambie
Wright
Abe

Personally I would have one of the young keepers as number two and sell Mama if we can get Ali to agree an extension.

We obviously have Leoni and Jacquet for defence but they are nailed on 1st teamers for me.

I would like to see Ndiaye and Scanlon given a shot.

Midfield I hope Nyoni and Baj can step up.

Forwards would be good to see if Wright and Figeroa can step up and if Danns has got over his injuries.

All in all exiting youth options on paper.

15 Jun 2026 12:21:02
Being told we could have free run at Barcola as Arsenal could be going all in on Morgan Rogers.

15 Jun 2026 15:15:49
We should challenge Arsenal for Roger's....
If it means leaving Barcola, then so be it.

15 Jun 2026 15:48:05
Rogers is more of a number 10 than a winger and we seem well stocked on that front.

15 Jun 2026 16:18:24
Arsenal don't really play a system which suits pacey wingers. They move forward gradually as a unit and then smother the opposition with a really high and aggressive press. You often see Saliba and Gabriel 10-20 yards inside the opposition half, moving the ball around where most teams would have their midfielders stationed. Then they just try and bully the ball over the line with that relentless pressure and cheap free kicks/corners.

That's why Martinelli, Trossard, Madueke and Saka suffer so much in terms of their open play goal/assist returns. The system they play is just not conducive to getting the best out of fast wingers. Last season, for example, Saka got 12 goal contributions, Trossard got 12, Madueke got 4, and Martinelli got 5. That is absolutely shocking for a title winning team.

We were miles off Arsenal in the league and our system had its own flaws in terms of optimising our wide forwards, but ours still put up similar numbers in a team that was massively underperforming. Last season, Salah got 14 goal contributions, Gakpo got 12, Wirtz got 8 and Rio got 3. Staggeringly similar (probably slightly better) when you consider we scraped 5th and they walked 1st.



Now, here's the reason I think this is relevant. Arsenal will be playing more of the same next season as, from their perspective, it worked and they're Champions. On the flip side, we will be changing head coach to a manager who got the most out of his wide forwards. Tavernier got 11 goal involvements despite being a bang average player. Semenyo got 13 in half a season and Rayan got 7 in half a season; had they been there a full year that could easily have been 26 for Semenyo and 14 for Rayan. And that's for a Bournemouth team that many had tipped for relegation at the start of the season, who don't dominate the ball and have no right to be anywhere near European qualification. So Barcola makes much more sense for us, as Iraola will get the best out of him. If he goes to Arsenal, he'll just get lost in the mire of Arteta-ball like Saka and Martinelli have, despite once looking very promising and capable of 20 goals a season apiece. Rogers would suit them much better, as he's a bully and a bit of a bulldozer who will only add to that smothering technique.

Barcola feels like an Iraola/Liverpool player, and Rogers feels like an Arteta/Arsenal player. I think these two deals will happen.

15 Jun 2026 16:34:31
If Arsenal want to sign Rodgers I'd be happy to take Nwaneri off their hands. He's already had to go on loan to get minutes and that would only push him further down the pecking order.

16 Jun 2026 16:17:25
Personally don't want BB, MR or EN. Don't see how any of those work for Iraola or in place of what we already have at the club.

16 Jun 2026 16:53:39
BeKind, I've changed my mind anyway, mate. I've been thinking about how natural Wirtz looked at LW for Germany in that free role (same as what Kvaratskhelia has for PSG) and upon reflection, I just can't see the point in Barcola.

If he wants to leave PSG because he hates being rotated, I don't see his situation being any different for us with Wirtz and most likely Diomande to compete with for a starting berth.

24 hours is a long time in my head during a transfer window.

15 Jun 2026 01:53:45
Regardless of who we bring in for next season, Wirtz being in the first team is going to continue causing us issues, people suggesting he should be played on the left. No strength, no speed and no backtracking engine, I’m sure that’s going to work out well.

We may as well hold up a sign at the beginning of the match stating ‘attack our left’, I think for the next couple of years at least, he is going to be left in the team based purely on his price tag. He will continue to show ‘glimpses’ and that’s what it will ever be. Unless we get some monsters in midfield, he is going to be the main reason we do not challenge for anything as long as he is a first teamer.



Ironically the ‘generational’ talent was the most anonymous player on the field yesterday.

As for Diomande, just like Wirtz and Nunez, never excited me, along with Nunez probably the only player where his YouTube highlights don't even excite me, reminds me of Traore from Wolves. Diomande is a Fulham player, who maybe gets a move to Tottenham in 2 years. Nowhere near 100m, couldn’t and won’t ever be able to lace Mane's boots, never mind replicating him in any way.

15 Jun 2026 05:38:20
Bet you're fun at parties.

15 Jun 2026 07:12:58
When he passes and moves, he looks better. Occasionally he holds onto it too long, like Curtis, and slows the play down. Be good to see him play inside forward and central. He's no winger.

15 Jun 2026 06:59:39
I've genuinely never seen anyone be as clueless about anything as you mate

{Ed078's Note - I said during the season that I'm not worried about Wirtz. I'm confident he'll continue to improve and prove his doubters wrong.

15 Jun 2026 09:41:46
I didn't watch the Ivory Coast game, but every report I read says Diomande terrorised Ecuador, especially Hincapie.

15 Jun 2026 10:08:30
All our players are crap. All the players we're linked with are crap. Iraola is crap. F$G are crap. The pies in the stadium are crap. Relegation next season.

I am very intelligent.

15 Jun 2026 10:46:15
That was a tough read, very... insightful.

15 Jun 2026 11:26:22
You're delusional. Wirtz was fantastic in that 7-1 and created more shooting opportunities than anyone else on the pitch. He was coming deep and linking the play, often being the man to play the first line breaking pass to initiate and attack as well as often being the one to play the final killer pass. There was also a moment where Sane tried a backheel in his own half and got it completely wrong, setting the Curacao winger free down the down wing. Who was there making a lung bursting recovery run to bale Sane out? Wirtz. So to say he won't run back is just a bare faced lie.

His work rate is incredible, his vision is incredible and his football IQ is already world class. He orchestrated everything that was good about Germany in that game, and you could see his team mates constantly trying to get the ball to him because they knew he'd make things happen. For sure he needs to show this against better opposition throughout the tournament, and next season for Liverpool, but the guys 23 years old. Let him cook and stop being so bloody negative.

15 Jun 2026 12:18:44
Clueless.

15 Jun 2026 13:59:23
Wirtz is a brilliant young player. He can see a pass before players around him even think about it. I believe he'll improve even more with Iraola's tactics, but the players around him need to be really switched on too.

15 Jun 2026 15:16:54
The problem, though, MK, is that Wirtz didn't assist and score all 7 goals.... Maybe then he'd be appreciated, even if it's just a little bit of appreciation.

15 Jun 2026 15:54:42
It'd be 'only Curacao' if he had JLC.

15 Jun 2026 18:49:25
True dat, SR.

15 Jun 2026 19:44:37
One of Bob's other quotes "Maybe Pep Lijnders was the real mastermind behind us after all." With words of wisdom like that, I will take your thoughts on Wirtz and Diomande with a pinch of salt.

15 Jun 2026 21:12:43
Surely he is not a Liverpool fan and just dropping a post to see what reaction he can get.
Most posts, people will agree, people will disagree, but I would say this post is the first one no one agrees with.

14 Jun 2026 14:01:21
My dad plays tennis at the same club as Jurgen Klopp in Majorca and he has heard Klopp wants to be next England manager.

14 Jun 2026 15:20:59
Serving up an ace rumour... Love it.

14 Jun 2026 15:27:21
That would get the deuces flowing...

14 Jun 2026 20:17:43
I would Love that to happen.

14 Jun 2026 21:12:16
The deuces might be flowing @Myrtle, but I'm in no doubt that Klopp would give England the advantage.

14 Jun 2026 22:18:21
SK,
Let it be true.

15 Jun 2026 12:42:42
That would be a nice return.