Liverpool Rumours 4

17 Jun 2026 23:31:19
Victor Munoz is now set to sign with us instead of Newcastle according to Fabrizo, didn’t see that one coming.

17 Jun 2026 20:26:36.
Hello,

I’m new to this, and this is my first post. I’ve got some sources at academy level, and therefore get some info here and there that I though I’d share here.

So, Liverpool are still working on signing Xavier Parker from Manchester City, with City pushing for him to stay. Expectation from some close to the situation is that the player will end up joining Liverpool, but nothing is confirmed at this stage.

17 Jun 2026 20:41:48
Nice one Noah.

17 Jun 2026 20:52:20
Welcome!!

17 Jun 2026 22:01:47
Cheers, Noah.

17 Jun 2026 22:06:42
Thanks for sharing, Noah.

17 Jun 2026 23:11:28
Nice one Noah, going for a pint in the Ark-les?

17 Jun 2026 23:24:17
Exactly what this site is all about, thank you, Noah.

18 Jun 2026 18:42:13
Nice one, Noah, welcome aboard.

17 Jun 2026 18:45:24
Italian media reports Inter have come back in with a deal to meet Liverpool's valuation for Jones. We wanted £25m. Inter have offered £21.8m rising to the £25m.

17 Jun 2026 19:11:30
How is Anderson, Wharton and even Tonali valued at 80m+ but we baring getting 20m for Jones.

17 Jun 2026 19:17:29
Contract length and general ability?

17 Jun 2026 19:36:10
Anderson, Wharton and Tonali are objectively better midfielders and don't have one year left on their contract, it's quite simple.

17 Jun 2026 20:07:35
Ox had one year left and they wanted £40m.

I don't understand why he valued so low.

17 Jun 2026 20:08:47
If Curtis goes to Inter that's a really good move for him, and hopefully he does as well as recent British players out there. It's not a great fee but will help us continue with the refresh of the squad. Probably best for all parties.

17 Jun 2026 20:14:30
Don't think Wharton's done enough yet to say he's better than Jones. Not to the extent of being worth three or four times as much in the transfer market anyway. Jones was our 2nd best midfielder last season and he's local (although, if he was our worst midfielder, that wouldn't be a reason to keep him), literally only Dom was better.

£20m is pittance. Keep him and get him to sign on if that's all you're getting for him.

17 Jun 2026 20:26:31
Come on Florian, Jones is poor, not one manager has found his best position and he's 26? If it wasn't for his postcode, people would have wanted him gone a long time ago.

17 Jun 2026 20:47:02
He was brilliant, best midfielder at the club up to his sending off vs Spurs. He's not crap.

17 Jun 2026 21:00:56
If Jones is poor, we've a few poor midfielders, Fatwallet. He also turned 25 on 30th January. It's nothing to do with his postcode, he is a better player than some on here give him credit for. A good engine, and one of our better pressers, he can suit Ireola's play.

I'd have him in the England squad over Mainoo all day long. On performances, he should have been starting over Grav and Mecca last year. As it was, he still featured 49 times for us last season, struggling to think who'd have appeared more than that apart from Virg and maybe Ibou?

17 Jun 2026 21:05:32
I wouldn't be any fan of Jones myself. I agree with Fatwallet.

17 Jun 2026 21:06:28
Whilst I don't agree with all the Jones is crap stuff that is said on this site, given a full healthy squad, he doesn't start for me, however, he is the perfect squad player. The problem is whether he is happy with that role.

If he wants a starting place, then I think he better look elsewhere.

17 Jun 2026 21:22:50
Agree to disagree, Florian, I really don't rate him.

17 Jun 2026 21:23:59
No one's saying he has to start, JLC, but like you said he can be the perfect squad player. He played 2850 mins in all comps, which is nearly 32 full 90 mins, and let's face it, on merit he should have got more. Only 6 players made more appearances than him.

I think he would be happy with similar mins next season, or even a few more if we went a bit further in the domestic Cups. It's a fresh start for all the players now, and as the squad stands right now, if I was Curtis I'd back myself to try get into that 11.

17 Jun 2026 21:41:43
Jones is 25 and we know he is never going to be world class, he is decent but prone to the odd brain-fart. Wharton and Anderson are younger and the price reflects the possibility that they might develop into something like world class.

17 Jun 2026 22:02:46
Difference between Jones n Wharton etc, is the calibre of the players at Liverpool are a lot better than those at Palace, say if Wharton, for example, came through our academy n had to break into the team, would have got as many starts to show his value, but if Jones was at Palace he'd be a starter for most of their games.

17 Jun 2026 22:22:32
I agree, Strom. Someone said Jones is prone to the odd brain fart. Thing is, we see all the brain farts from young players at LFC, Utd or City, etc. We see every one of their games more or less, whereas with the likes of Forest and Pakace a lot of what we see is just highlights on MOTD.

Very easy to think these players do no wrong. They also don't face anything like the expectation players coming through at the top clubs do.

17 Jun 2026 22:36:28
Rising ro £25m?

I would rather give Jones a new contract and make him captain.

Just my two cents.

17 Jun 2026 23:07:27
Thats it, Florian, they are allowed to grow at the smaller teams, Jones is under scrutiny all the time at Liverpool. Not saying Wharton is a bad player, but Jones is a decent squad player for us.

Since we let everyone go for no transfer fee, why we worrying over 20 mill for a player who will play at least 30 games for us n knows the way we play, id keep him.

17 Jun 2026 23:23:52
It might have been easier for Curtis if he wasn't carrying the expectations on his back to be world class since he was 18.

I'll bet you a £1 to a pinch of excrement that he will flourish if he goes to Milan. Then we can expect the 'Why did we let him go?', 'Why don't we buy him back?' stuff.

17 Jun 2026 23:37:11
There will be a sell-on clause if he moves to Milan.

18 Jun 2026 00:37:30
25m is a joke. Should be 35m rising to 40m with achievable add-ons.

If he goes to Inter, he's going to have the same impact McTominnay (spelling) had at Napoli.

25-30m is probably what we could get for Elliott if we sold him to a German club, and he barely played all season.

I'd much rather keep Jones if that's all we're getting for him, he could be solid in Iraola's system.

Macca is the higher priority to sell in midfield. Seems to have no legs or desire to play for us.

Mind you, I wonder if Jones has simply checked out and is telling the club to sell him. His face when he scored on the last game of the season said a lot.

It sucks that Italian teams don't pay much.

18 Jun 2026 00:46:13
Keep Curtis.

18 Jun 2026 05:58:52
Serie A clubs aren't exactly shopping with champagne money. Neither is the rest of the world outside the Prem, mind you.
Personally, I think the finance scale weighted so heavily towards the Premier League is a problem.

18 Jun 2026 09:22:00
Jones was sent off against Spurs almost 3 years ago, lol.

Sep 2023.

18 Jun 2026 14:42:12
I like Jones quite a bit, and he was arguably our best right back by the end of the season, but part of it is he wants to play midfield regularly, and I am not sure Liverpool can guarantee that to him, plus only a year left of his contract, so...

17 Jun 2026 16:25:28
Hello all!
I’ve been in Italy and my line of work has given me the chance to speak to someone who works for TuttoJuve and was told that Liverpool have enquired about Kephren Thurman? (I’m not sure how reliable this site is as I’ve never heard of it before).

I’ve been traveling a lot recently with work and haven’t had the chance to get any info from the misses and her clientele.

17 Jun 2026 16:58:03
Uma's brother is playing football these days?

17 Jun 2026 17:30:04
How dare you assume their gender! Una has transitioned! I read all about it in The National Enquirer.

17 Jun 2026 18:07:32
I posted re Khephren and Kone links on the 6th, either would be an upgrade on Macca or Curtis?

17 Jun 2026 18:44:59
Not sure how true, but seen Arsenal have agreed terms with Kone.

17 Jun 2026 10:09:56
Been told Arsenal are close to getting Bouaddi possibly to replace Odegarrd who is of interest to Ath Madrid.

17 Jun 2026 10:49:26
4 CBs, 3 DMs and 2 wingbacks. We need to come up with a new name, as haram ball won't cut it anymore about Arteta.

17 Jun 2026 11:27:00
Real must have left the race.

17 Jun 2026 11:31:17
Ok, Dan-Ish,
How about Eddie Waring's "Up and Under"?
Apologies to all those under 60, who probably have never heard of him.

17 Jun 2026 11:57:00
False. Been told from Carol in LFC Kitchen that big order for couscous and tagine have been placed.

17 Jun 2026 12:04:15
I love me some Couscous and Tagine, myself.

17 Jun 2026 12:15:52
Not long back from Morocco, and given how crap their airport and staff are, if he were to sign, he wouldn't arrive till next season.

Impossible to get out of that place!

17 Jun 2026 13:40:15
In the last 4 days you've been 'told' Liverpool are favourites, Arsenal are favourites and Real Madrid are entering the race.

17 Jun 2026 13:45:39
Big squad, great depth, competing for everything, that's what you want!!!

17 Jun 2026 13:43:53
Raceylfc do you just dream stuff up and then think it's real.
You contradict yourself more than Clinton Morrison and if I did not see your post myself I would not believe anyone could.

17 Jun 2026 13:50:43
I know you claim to be getting info from an agent @Racey, but I remember that earlier you used to copy/paste WilsonCoxLFC twitter updates here. I find it hard to pick out the correct bits from all the things you share here.

17 Jun 2026 14:11:42
Just back from Agadir in Morocco. Great holiday, tiny airport. Flight left on time.

17 Jun 2026 14:37:46
Agadir... Did you push pineapple, shake the tree...

17 Jun 2026 14:51:19
@ Cookie Monster, ... what are you trying to get at?? Things change all the time regarding transfers, all I know is the kid wants to join PSG but they have to shift some big name players in midfield first which they are reluctant to do.

17 Jun 2026 15:08:51
Be crazy to join PSG. Some job trying to get a game there in midfield.

17 Jun 2026 15:17:14
Last thing I saw, he was leaning towards us as he saw more a route to first team football.

18 Jun 2026 01:38:47
Hi again all.

Basically been reliably informed by a source close to the situation that raceylfc is a massive fraud. Not going to reveal my source but LFC kitchen staff very vocal on this.

Ta

16 Jun 2026 22:35:29
Real Madrid have apparently entered chase for Bouaddi.

16 Jun 2026 22:44:31
To sit on the bench for 4 years?

16 Jun 2026 22:45:02
Nope. He won't go there. It's either Arsenal or us.

16 Jun 2026 23:59:30
PSG or us, I think.

17 Jun 2026 03:25:36
LFC or Arsenal because he wants to go to England.

17 Jun 2026 05:29:35
It's going to be us. He's a huge fan of Billy J Kramer and the Dakotas.

17 Jun 2026 05:51:12
How long do Rm have to wait until Bouaddi is on a free?

17 Jun 2026 10:02:05
In Morocco, they've named a vast riverbed after him. I've just booked to visit the Bouaddi Wadi. I'll sit with the missus under the moon of love.

17 Jun 2026 10:29:32
RobbyRoll wins the internet.

17 Jun 2026 12:17:40
Real Madrid will be speaking to him over the next move aka in four years time, mate, leave *insert club here* for free and join us for a nice sign on fee.

17 Jun 2026 14:11:45
They aren't even similar type of players, so this makes 0 sense.

Ken.

16 Jun 2026 22:06:23
Double downing on Robbo’s post.

Yan Diomande almost certainly gets done now.

A big legal hurdle has been overcome in the last hours.

The structure of deal and final price shouldn’t be an issue from here. The difficult part of the transfer has been boxed off.

Ta.

{Ed025's Note - nice one Carra..

16 Jun 2026 22:26:05
Cheers Carra. 🍻

16 Jun 2026 22:29:44
That's great news, cheers, Carra.

16 Jun 2026 22:33:29
Awesome stuff Carra and Robbo.

16 Jun 2026 22:35:05
Come on! Our most exciting signing since.... Wirtz.

16 Jun 2026 22:35:49
Cheers Carra.

16 Jun 2026 22:35:56
Cheers, Carra, that's great news.

16 Jun 2026 22:41:11
Fantastic news, Carra.

16 Jun 2026 23:26:07
Cheers, Carra. If we can get this deal over the line, we can relax a bit.

17 Jun 2026 02:14:10
Vamos! Thank you, Carra.

17 Jun 2026 05:43:19
Cheers, Carra.

17 Jun 2026 05:49:53
Thanks, Carra.
Great info as always.

17 Jun 2026 07:30:23
Thanks, Carra.

17 Jun 2026 08:15:27
Cheers, Carra, good news.

17 Jun 2026 08:15:58
Cheers, Carra.

Now that the Diomande deal seems basically done, the one player I'd really like us to push the boat out for is Ayyoub Bouaddi.

Not only does he solve the No. 6 problem we've had since Fabinho left, but at 18, he could potentially have that position locked down for the next decade.

Players rarely stay at one club that long these days, but either way, you're looking at a long-term solution in a position we've struggled to fill for years.

17 Jun 2026 08:55:05
Thanks, Carra.

17 Jun 2026 09:29:25
Excellent news, thanks for the info, Carra.

17 Jun 2026 11:32:32
All new signings need longer contracts to stop a certain Spanish cheapskate club taking the piss anymore. No more rats jumping ship after we've made the stars.
Can't be a stepping stone club for young unknown/talent to use for their own progression route to other clubs anymore.
Do a Chelsea and stop this tomfoolery now.

17 Jun 2026 12:05:42
Nice one, Carra.

17 Jun 2026 13:18:39
A right back.
Cb.
Dm.
A forward.
Another winger.


Chop, chop, Liverpool.

17 Jun 2026 16:12:01
Nice one, Carra, nice one, son, Nice one, Carra, let's have another one!!!

Oldy but goody!!

17 Jun 2026 17:54:40
We bent the knee.

Fun fact, not one of Leipzig's big-money transfers has worked in the EPL.

Keita
Werner
Nkunku
Simmons
Gvardiol
Sesko
**That lad someone signed for 90m after just one season.

17 Jun 2026 18:22:10
Ok Wirtz, we can add RB Leipzig to the ever growing list that keeps coming up. No expensive players if not prem proven, can't buy English due to "English tax", no one from Italy cos they don't settle in prem, no players from farmers leagues. So pretty sure we are ok with Spanish player.

17 Jun 2026 19:42:01
To be fair, Gvardiol has been good but got an unfortunate injury, and Sesko hasn't been half bad, which pains me to say.

16 Jun 2026 18:44:33.
Evening Gents.

We have offered Diomande a huge deal, and as far as I'm aware, everything is agreed.

Now it's up to both clubs to agree a fee, Liverpool have a £75m offer approved.

RB Leipzig want upwards of £87m.

Negotiations are well underway.

Cheers.

16 Jun 2026 19:20:55
Great news. I just hope we don't drag our heels over a few million, and just get him signed.

16 Jun 2026 19:24:05
Thanks Robbo.

16 Jun 2026 19:29:19
Cheers, Robbo. Personally, I think £75 million is a fair offer for Diomande, but I'd happily pay £80 million if it gets the deal over the line.

16 Jun 2026 19:32:09
Thanks Robbo, and I agree. Get it done before the World Cup creates an auction for him.

16 Jun 2026 19:43:17
We will break bank for him. It might be overreaction. The way Yamal played yesterday, if you compare it to how Diomande played against Ecuador, Diomande looked superior. ik Diomande needs to prove in bigger stage. But he played against one of the best defence in the World Cup.

16 Jun 2026 19:49:42
Great info, Robbo. Hopefully it gets done ASAP, mate.

16 Jun 2026 19:50:41
Cheers, Robbo. I hope his wages don't start too high, as he needs to earn it, but I also understand we will be fighting off other huge teams. He has big boots to fill.

16 Jun 2026 20:09:42
Cheers, Robbo. Let's hope something is announced asap so he can concentrate on the World Cup. 👍🏻

16 Jun 2026 20:13:14
Good stuff. Let's hope they can meet somewhere in the middle and get it wrapped up. Thanks for the info Robbo.

16 Jun 2026 20:15:42
Surely £75m rising to £87m with easily got add-ons. Hopefully, a good wage will entice him, although Capology has him on 12kpw.

16 Jun 2026 20:20:01
Cheers, Robbo. Really hope this happens. It would be a mega signing!!

16 Jun 2026 20:31:27
12m, Robbo, get it done before he plays too many games in the World Cup and his value shoots up.

16 Jun 2026 20:38:50
A great start to the window. It will be interesting to see who he rotates with. Salah's availability was second to none.

16 Jun 2026 20:43:44
Great news, Robbo. Let's hope we can get this across the line.

16 Jun 2026 20:45:25
Brilliant Robbo. 👏

16 Jun 2026 20:52:12
Nice one Robbo! Doubt the club will want this to drag on any longer, the way he's playing atm.

16 Jun 2026 21:04:33
Hopefully get it wrapped up asap. If Barcola agrees a move to Arsenal, then PSG might come back in for him.

16 Jun 2026 21:17:17
Nice one, Robbo, lad.
Work out the fine details/numbers and let's crack on.

16 Jun 2026 21:49:17
Cheers, Robbo.

16 Jun 2026 22:05:19
Thanks, Robbo, appreciate you info.

16 Jun 2026 22:41:47
87m for a 19 year old with 1 season under his belt with 12 goals, footie is well and truly gone, has been for a long time. Cheers for the info Robbo.

16 Jun 2026 22:55:41
It's better than last week, @Port. Didn't I see the asking price was over £100m last week?

16 Jun 2026 23:40:35
I lray he doesn't get injured in the World Cup.

16 Jun 2026 23:59:03
Would be nice to see him signing officially, although I don't really name how good he is. Barcola was amazing today, totally contrast to his performance in the CL final.

17 Jun 2026 00:35:32
He's a week older, WDW.
Thyme and tied weight for Norman.

17 Jun 2026 02:15:07
Good news, Robo

Who's next target?

17 Jun 2026 04:36:11
Yea, bid millions on a player that's at the WC and will play every game for his country, and I don't want to say it, but with our luck I know what will happen at the WC.

17 Jun 2026 05:44:10
Cheers Robbo.

17 Jun 2026 08:18:47
Cheers Robbo, appreciated as always.

16 Jun 2026 12:13:50
LFC exploring Schlotterbeck.
Josh Holme looking likely to be another academy scoop.
Contacted Bouaddi, no deal to after WC similar to Yan.
Bradley Barcola open to move, Arsenal also in the race.

Best
BigEars.

16 Jun 2026 14:07:37
Sounds good to me, big ears.

Noddy.

16 Jun 2026 14:20:29
Cheers, BigEars.

16 Jun 2026 15:36:30
6GS, You win the internet today. 👏🏆

16 Jun 2026 15:45:44
Couldn't resist!

16 Jun 2026 16:49:35
Yesterday I was convinced Barcola would sign for us. Since then, though, I've had a sleep and changed my mind. I want to see a Diomande, Isak and Wirtz front 3. Wirtz and Diomande being able to seamlessly alternate sides makes it even more salivating.

16 Jun 2026 17:26:20
Absolutely no way should Wirtz be out on the wing. Wirtz should be sitting behind the front 3 pulling the strings. Your wingers need to be pacey to get round their man.
Look at all the recent winners of the big trophies.

All had good pacey, tricky wingers. Look at PSG, Man City, Us in 2017 onwards.

Rio/Barcola. Isak. Yan Da man.

Wirtz.

Camara. Szobo.

Kerkez. VVD. Jaquet. Palestra.


Alisson.

16 Jun 2026 17:50:29
Indeed, Neff73. I don't know where this "Wirtz on the left" crap came from esp. when you consider last season where Slot played him there and was completely crap.

16 Jun 2026 17:59:49
I'm not with you on that, MK. I agree with Neff73. Most importantly, I want Wirtz in a floating 10 position, finding space and making the killer pass. The wingers need to be able to beat a man and get to the touch line and put a cross in, to get the best out of Isak.


Barcola and Diomande would be the priority signings for me, even if we had to sell Gakpo to fund it. If we could only get one, because of the cost, then I'm not against bringing back Darwin to make up the numbers.

16 Jun 2026 18:14:27
If Wirtz is not in the centre he should not be in the side. I know he's meant to have done well coming in off the wing in the Bundesliga, but he's been anonymous when he's played there for Liverpool. Watching him out there is, for me, like looking at Harvey Elliott out on the right. Both will give it a go, have good attitudes, but we are trying to win things here.

He gets outmuscled and outpaced by too many of these Premier League RBs. If we sign a couple of wingers and a top midfielder, I think Wirtz is gonna find it hard enough trying to get in the first 11, never mind trying to impress in a position I struggle to remember him having a good game in at the club.

16 Jun 2026 18:18:56
I mean he literally plays on the left for Germany and played there mostly for Leverkusen, Oli, so whilst you're free to disagree it's a bit harsh to call it "crap" haha. Cheers though, mate, going to go cry myself to sleep now.

I can see why people want Wirtz in the midfield 3 but I just don't fancy him there to be honest.

It reminds me of when Trent looked good drifting into the midfield from RB, but struggled when played as an actual midfielder. I think Wirtz looks more dangerous drifting into central areas than if he's actually played in there as a starting position.

It's all subjective though, unless you're the all knowing oracle like Oli!

16 Jun 2026 18:20:25
It's a bit of a conundrum with Wirtz for me, he's undoubtedly elite level, and I mean a proper elite footballer, somebody you build your team around. However, it's clear even when playing in a 10 he likes to pop up in space from the left a lot of the time, and he takes up the spaces you'd naturally find your left winger in.

Obviously, this is only his starting position, as he rarely goes down the outside but comes inside to find the pockets in there. I feel with him, another left winger and Kerkez, those spaces are going to become non-existent and quite a bit congested, making him look pretty ineffective as well as the other 2 players.



Germany usually deploys him from the left, and I think to myself, would he be naturally more comfortable in the left spot of a front 3, coming in as a more inverted attacking midfielder rather than an out and out winger, allowing for Kerkez to make his runs into the space Wirtz leaves to go inside and create.

Whatever we do going forward though, Florian has to be at the centre of it all. I'm not bothered about how it's started for him at us or what others think of him, I believe this lad is and is going to be a very special footballer for us!

16 Jun 2026 18:22:05
To be fair, Wirtz played on left against Madrid and probably his best game. But I agree he should be behind, but for me he should be behind a front 2.

16 Jun 2026 18:30:52
Florian Musiala, I don't think you can judge Wirtz on the left for us fairly because the system was not right. When he played there for Leverkusen, he had Grimaldo bursting past him. When he played there for Germany, he had Brown bursting past him. When he played there for us, he had Kerkez being told to sit back tucked in as a 3rd CB most of the time. Wirtz needs that selfless run to take a player away from him and give him the space to hurt teams with his vision.

If you let Kerkez loose to bomb past Wirtz next season, then that allows Wirtz to drift inside without us lacking width down the left.

It also means Wirtz will be primarily operating from central areas, but he'd be overloading the midfield, making it much harder for the opposition to pick him up. This is how Leverkusen and Germany get Wirtz looking world class. If you play him in a midfield 3 with 3 forwards ahead of him, he's no longer coming in unmarked as an overload, he's already marked by the DM (usually the most aggressive player and best tackler in the team) when he receives the ball, and we're 3 vs 3 in the middle of the park.

Just my opinion, people are entitled to disagree.

16 Jun 2026 18:40:12
The reason he plays on the left for Germany is the same reason he didn't want to join Bayern Munich... Musiala!
I think (hope) Iraola will build the team to get the best out of Wirtz and Isak.

16 Jun 2026 18:42:55
The main reason we don't like Gakpo is because he can't beat his man. He keeps cutting in and having a s***.
Why would we swap him out for Wirtz to do the same thing?

At least from the middle, he can wander where he wants and help create the space by pulling the DM away with him.

Neff.

16 Jun 2026 18:43:44
Spot on for me, to be honest, MK, I share the same view on how to get the best out of him.

16 Jun 2026 18:53:02
I can see what you're saying MK, and I always say, when it comes to Wirtz I somewhat bow to people's superior knowledge on here as I don't watch much Bundesliga. I only go by what I see in Red, and truthfully I'm seriously underwhelmed by him so far. I sometimes think his performances get bigged up too. I've tried to watch Germany this season when I could just to see Wirtz, and where I'd think he'd had a decent game, people would be on here saying he'd absolutely ran the show. Last Sunday was similar.

Was good for the first 30mins then disappeared for me but got his assist so people were over the moon with him. What way does Iraola even play? I'm struggling to remember who was their main LW last season. Does Iraola play with two out and out wingers or does he play with one and a Wirtz/Elliott type? Look, we all want and need the same thing, for Wirtz to succeed. But so far honestly I'd be more worried about him starting games ahead of Dom as the most advanced MF if we sign two direct speedy wingers and a top MF.

16 Jun 2026 18:54:24
I'm so to you, MK, on this one, as much as I'd love Wirtz in the 10 floating behind the 3 forwards, I think at present Wirtz gets eaten up as part of a midfield 3. Perhaps if we get more mobile midfielders as an anchoring 2 in midfield, but I'm not convinced Wirtz as part of a 3 in midfield stacks up in this league.

Perhaps as he develops and adapts to the league he could build physically and maybe develop into a Bernardo Silva type, but for upcoming season I'd prioritise him on LW with a view to playing as described by MK and solidify our Midfield.

16 Jun 2026 19:00:44
The problem with Gakpo, Neff is he's too predictable. When on form he's brilliant at cutting in, getting his shot off, and he either scores or tests the keeper.

I think the problems we saw with Gakpo last season reiterate what I've said above. It's too congested, and with Wirtz as a 10, Gakpo as a winger who is more of an inside forward and Kerkez who is an overlapping full back just all get in the way of each other, and it's easy for teams to mark them out of the game completely.



That's the whole left side becoming ineffective essentially. For me, (which is something Slot didn't do enough of) you set your team tactics up to compliment the best attributes of the players you have at your disposal.

16 Jun 2026 19:09:29
I agree with MK. He plays there for Germany and always looks good. People saying he was rubbish last season playing there. Well, everyone was rubbish last season playing anywhere! I followed him at Leverkusen, and whilst not strictly on the left wing, he was the left sided no 10 and so came in from that side and was devastating.



Also means you can have an extra man in the middle in a 433.

16 Jun 2026 19:19:44
He plays a left sided 10, which is very different to what most people think when they hear "plays on the left". People think Mane, Diaz, but it's obviously not like that. Given we are going for Wingers, I think Wirtz will end up through the centre as a 10, but a lot can change with a new approach.

16 Jun 2026 19:34:39
Wirtz on the left is a massive no.

16 Jun 2026 20:05:30
Wasn't a major part of him choosing us over City and Bayern that he got to play in the 10?

16 Jun 2026 20:13:36
The slow build last season stifled all attacking players including Wirtz. He can definitely play on the left, but like mk says, if he has an overlapping fullback. Wirtz can definitely beat a man, but we need to find him sooner when he's not surrounded by every other player on the pitch.

16 Jun 2026 20:24:48
OilRed, you ask where this "play off the left" stuff comes from. Maybe every single game of his career? He's always started left and drifted inside to find the space and a full back bombing on. The only time he has ever played 10 is for us, and it really hasn't worked so far.

{Ed001's Note - that's not true. He has not 'always' started left. Alonso rarely even played a full-back at Leverkusen to bomb on.}

16 Jun 2026 23:04:19
To be fair, there was no real point in playing a 10 with Slot's game plans. To be honest, I'm not hung up on where Wirtz plays. If we play a proper style of attacking football, he will be an asset on the left or in the middle.

He reminds me a bit of Pablo Aimar and it would be great to see him get the chance to show what he can properly do in a Reds shirt.

17 Jun 2026 08:27:38
Neff, I remember Gakpo cutting in and having a shot but never cutting in and having a ****.